yeah not tried much, other than just summoning out in the middle of nowhere, seeing where it's at it's just like when i first started. usually he's fine, but it's exhausting to keep it in line.
i thought she was one of yours i wouldn't mind that. i just don't know where to start. you and elizabeth know the most about personas, I figure.
[A pause.]
thats another one of those things i feel like i'm forgetting i swear i know her. i know she's got something to do with personas and asks people to bring her shit but i don't have any specific memories of ever seeing her outside of here
I have my Persona with me from the final fight, so I shouldn't be in any danger. I can cast reflective shields. I think it will help if you let loose a little bit.
That is weird. Do you think you're a Wild Card now? Do you know what that is?
yeah that's what i've been trying its hard. i don't mind testing it out with you sometime.
that's like what you do, right? no i don't think so castor and her definitely aren't the same if that makes sense like he's there and i can use her skills but she doesn't replace him
So you can use them both at once? Maybe it would make sense to focus on Alice for a while. Even if everything else were perfect, if you expect Castor to give you trouble, he will. He can only reflect how you feel about him. [Which is, you know, how you feel about yourself, but Minato can't bring himself to be that blunt. It seems almost cruel.]
just not used to it i guess i guess it's like trying to figure out how to not think about something or relax or whatever trying to force yourself to just makes it harder
so yeah summoning him and letting him go free or whatever is hard
guess so. so far i havent needed a persona here so hopefully that'll keep up but if i do i might try and use her more. too bad i'm shit with the more magic-type skills
you make it sound easy but thats vague as hell trust yourself and not doubt it or whatever like where do you even start with that abstract bullshit
megidola, mind charge, die for me, impure touch, evil smile, and lethargy circle castors got heat wave, fatal end, blade of fure, powercharge, and then his countering and regen
It's the difference between something you know you can do well with your eyes closed, and something you watch carefully to make sure you've done it right.
[Wait, maybe that's not less vague... That's what you get for speaking to Minato.]
That's a good list. It's nice to see you have some abilities aside from physical; you'll be effective against a wider range of enemies.
....so basically when you can do it without thinking, you've got it?
i dunno how some've them will work on things other than shadows, but it ain't like there's a lot to practice on here. as much as those things sucked, they were good for training on
Sort of. You have to do it without hesitating. You still hesitate, don't you?
For a country in a war, it's surprisingly peaceful, isn't it? I suppose I shouldn't argue. I know some friends that wouldn't mind training with us if you'd like experience against other targets.
[Maybe as leader he should enforce regular training sessions... Hmm.]
[Any other time, and he'd evade that first question. He doesn't hesitate in pulling the trigger on his evoker, usually. Not anymore, not since he was starting off. But mentally-- of course. There's always that apprehension, not knowing how the situation will turn as soon as he calls the Persona forth.]
yeah but hesitating or not isn't going to fix it
i think everything going on in the war is just information and spying and shit if you think that practicing with others would help, i'd go along with it but i don't know that would help.
There's nothing that will 'directly' help, senpai. Persona are part of your subconscious, so we can't be direct.
You'll have to be patient. I think using your Persona as much as possible in a variety of circumstances is what you'll have to do. You'll lose control a few times. It's okay. Me or your friend or someone else who can take it will be there.
You have to do that and face it in order to move past it.
so far he's not come out without me summoning him but i keep wondering when that's gonna change
it's a huge gamble to put on 'be patient and try hard'. i don't mind trying it out not like i have a choice here but it sucks that theres no better fix for it
[There's a long pause, almost half a minute, as Minato decides how blunt to be here while Shinji's in his sharing mood. He doesn't want to take advantage of him, so not too much, but he won't flinch away either.]
Changing what's inside you is slow and hard. How you think of yourself, how you look at the world... It was only through accepting others' influences on me that my Persona grew stronger. That took a long time.
didn't you only get your persona five or six months before i came back?
[A 'long time.' Maybe. But Minato had faced the void of the Dark Hour for-- quite a long time, from his understanding. Like Mitsuru, though without the benefit of a Persona until recently. And then it was all in that last whirlwind year that things had come together and ended for them.]
maybe i'm no good with this kinda thing because it doesnt really make sense i can't just make shit up and think I'm better or that the world as a whole actually gives a damn about us or anyone else because that's stupid
Yes, in April. I assume I always had Orpheus, but I never needed to summon before. Shadows avoided me.
[Minato and Mitsuru really do have some things in common, and a lot of those commonalities that make her able to understand-- and sympathetic to-- Shinji's dilemma are the same ones that enable Minato to be as well.]
It won't care about you or about anyone. It never will. [Minato won't sugar coat things; he doesn't think he has to. This subject is one he knows intimately and he speaks on it readily.] But that doesn't matter. There's specific individuals who care about you, just as you care about specific others and not the whole world. It's alright that way.
You won't suddenly be better by thinking about it, anyway. My best advice... what worked for me... fake it for long enough, and it will start to become real.
I don't even have memories of it not existing, so I can't remember what my reaction was.
Well, it's important to have someone you don't pretend with, too. It's tiring, to keep those masks on. So with Akihiko-san and others, like Jaime-kun and Ken-kun and myself, sometimes if you need to, you can stop pretending for a while.
Otherwise... yes. Give it a try. Let me know how it goes.
them and hiro and tadashi is basically everyone i know i think i mean there's jacob too we'll see how it goes i guess can't say i'm really good at acting though
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not tried much, other than just summoning out in the middle of nowhere, seeing where it's at
it's just like when i first started. usually he's fine, but it's exhausting to keep it in line.
i thought she was one of yours
i wouldn't mind that. i just don't know where to start. you and elizabeth know the most about personas, I figure.
[A pause.]
thats another one of those things i feel like i'm forgetting
i swear i know her. i know she's got something to do with personas and asks people to bring her shit
but i don't have any specific memories of ever seeing her outside of here
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That is weird. Do you think you're a Wild Card now? Do you know what that is?
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its hard.
i don't mind testing it out with you sometime.
that's like what you do, right?
no i don't think so
castor and her definitely aren't the same if that makes sense
like he's there and i can use her skills but she doesn't replace him
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So you can use them both at once? Maybe it would make sense to focus on Alice for a while. Even if everything else were perfect, if you expect Castor to give you trouble, he will. He can only reflect how you feel about him. [Which is, you know, how you feel about yourself, but Minato can't bring himself to be that blunt. It seems almost cruel.]
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i guess it's like trying to figure out how to not think about something or relax or whatever
trying to force yourself to just makes it harder
so yeah summoning him and letting him go free or whatever is hard
guess so. so far i havent needed a persona here so hopefully that'll keep up
but if i do i might try and use her more.
too bad i'm shit with the more magic-type skills
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We'll get you to a point where you can trust yourself, senpai. I promise.
What skill set does she have for you? It's best to have a way to fight, in case anything unexpected happens.
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trust yourself and not doubt it or whatever
like where do you even start with that abstract bullshit
megidola, mind charge, die for me, impure touch, evil smile, and lethargy circle
castors got heat wave, fatal end, blade of fure, powercharge, and then his countering and regen
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[Wait, maybe that's not less vague... That's what you get for speaking to Minato.]
That's a good list. It's nice to see you have some abilities aside from physical; you'll be effective against a wider range of enemies.
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i dunno how some've them will work on things other than shadows, but it ain't like there's a lot to practice on here.
as much as those things sucked, they were good for training on
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For a country in a war, it's surprisingly peaceful, isn't it? I suppose I shouldn't argue. I know some friends that wouldn't mind training with us if you'd like experience against other targets.
[Maybe as leader he should enforce regular training sessions... Hmm.]
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yeah
but hesitating or not isn't going to fix it
i think everything going on in the war is just information and spying and shit
if you think that practicing with others would help, i'd go along with it
but i don't know that would help.
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You'll have to be patient. I think using your Persona as much as possible in a variety of circumstances is what you'll have to do. You'll lose control a few times. It's okay. Me or your friend or someone else who can take it will be there.
You have to do that and face it in order to move past it.
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but i keep wondering when that's gonna change
it's a huge gamble to put on 'be patient and try hard'.
i don't mind trying it out
not like i have a choice here
but it sucks that theres no better fix for it
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Changing what's inside you is slow and hard. How you think of yourself, how you look at the world... It was only through accepting others' influences on me that my Persona grew stronger. That took a long time.
I'm confident that you can do it, too.
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[A 'long time.' Maybe. But Minato had faced the void of the Dark Hour for-- quite a long time, from his understanding. Like Mitsuru, though without the benefit of a Persona until recently. And then it was all in that last whirlwind year that things had come together and ended for them.]
maybe i'm no good with this kinda thing because it doesnt really make sense
i can't just make shit up and think I'm better or that the world as a whole actually gives a damn about us or anyone else
because that's stupid
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[Minato and Mitsuru really do have some things in common, and a lot of those commonalities that make her able to understand-- and sympathetic to-- Shinji's dilemma are the same ones that enable Minato to be as well.]
It won't care about you or about anyone. It never will. [Minato won't sugar coat things; he doesn't think he has to. This subject is one he knows intimately and he speaks on it readily.] But that doesn't matter. There's specific individuals who care about you, just as you care about specific others and not the whole world. It's alright that way.
You won't suddenly be better by thinking about it, anyway. My best advice... what worked for me... fake it for long enough, and it will start to become real.
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guess i don't remember a lot about when i first got out into the dark hour
i dunno if i even paid much attention to what the shadows were doing
[being too busy being goddamned terrified, after all.]
pick up a bunch of people and pretend everythings alright
man aki always calls me on that shit.
but it's worth a try
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Well, it's important to have someone you don't pretend with, too. It's tiring, to keep those masks on. So with Akihiko-san and others, like Jaime-kun and Ken-kun and myself, sometimes if you need to, you can stop pretending for a while.
Otherwise... yes. Give it a try. Let me know how it goes.
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i mean there's jacob too
we'll see how it goes i guess
can't say i'm really good at acting though
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Would you like me to introduce you to some others?
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i'd like that
[HE WILL REGRET THIS STATEMENT IMMENSELY WHEN HE'S NOT MIND-FUCKED]
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Okay. I'll think of who to introduce you to. Maybe we can go to the beach together one day this summer.
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the beach is alright
pretty hot though
we can bring aki, too. he's really bad at meeting people.
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